For the sake of clarity and to repeat what this blog stands for, we post this article which gives a clear picture of our own feelings.
April 15, 2011
Ideals Trump Interests in Obama's Libya Policy
by Raymond Ibrahim
Hudson New York
President Obama's recent explanation for militarily engaging Libya is yetanother example of how US leaders increasingly rationalize their policies via sentimental and idealistic platitudes, rather than reality or the long view — or just plain common sense.
In a speech replete with moralizing intonations, Obama did manage to evoke US "interests" — six times — though he never explained what these are. Instead, we were admonished about "our responsibilities to our fellow human beings" and how not assisting them "would have been a betrayal of who we are." Further, by juxtaposing America's "interests" with its "values" — Obama did so twice in his Libya speech — indicates that he may see the two as near synonymous, though they certainly are not.
The closest thing to a fuzzy "interest" that Obama posited is the need to contain Libyan rebels from fleeing to and disrupting nearby nations, such as Egypt, a country of "democratic impulses" where "change will inspire us and raise hopes" — so an overly optimistic Obama observed. While there certainly are liberal, secular elements in Egypt's revolution, increasing evidence — from an Islamist-inclined military that opens fire on its Christian minority, to the recent referendum which serves the Muslim Brotherhood — indicates that, left to itself, Egypt is poised to look more like Iran than America.
Of course, the Obama administration is not against Islamists rising to power — so long as it is through the "will" of the people. As the Los Angeles Timesput it, the administration "supports a role for groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood, a banned Islamist organization, in a reformed Egyptian government." Even in his speech, Obama said the US must support "the freedom for people to express themselves and choose their leaders"; must support "governments that are ultimately responsive to the aspirations of the people." The underlying assumption is that people always choose liberal forms of governments — a demonstrably false notion: Nazis, Hamas, the mullahs — all came to power through the "aspirations of the people."
As for Libya's nebulous opposition, even before Obama decided to support them, the Washington Post had reported that "the administration knows little about Libya's well-armed rebels, [and] cannot predict the political system that might replace Qaddafi's bizarre rule." More recent evidence indicates that the US is arming the same jihadists who four years earlier were trying to kill Americans in Iraq.
Yet Obama bypasses all these obstacles by engaging in moral posturing, asserting, for example, that a massacre in eastern Libya's Benghazi "would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world. It was not in our national interest to let that happen. I refused to let that happen." Again, no clarification exactly how an intertribal massacre — regular occurrences the world over — is "not in our national interest." Moreover, as Jihad Watch director Robert Spencer soberly puts it:
Ideals Trump Interests in Obama's Libya Policy
by Raymond Ibrahim
Hudson New York
President Obama's recent explanation for militarily engaging Libya is yetanother example of how US leaders increasingly rationalize their policies via sentimental and idealistic platitudes, rather than reality or the long view — or just plain common sense.
In a speech replete with moralizing intonations, Obama did manage to evoke US "interests" — six times — though he never explained what these are. Instead, we were admonished about "our responsibilities to our fellow human beings" and how not assisting them "would have been a betrayal of who we are." Further, by juxtaposing America's "interests" with its "values" — Obama did so twice in his Libya speech — indicates that he may see the two as near synonymous, though they certainly are not.
The closest thing to a fuzzy "interest" that Obama posited is the need to contain Libyan rebels from fleeing to and disrupting nearby nations, such as Egypt, a country of "democratic impulses" where "change will inspire us and raise hopes" — so an overly optimistic Obama observed. While there certainly are liberal, secular elements in Egypt's revolution, increasing evidence — from an Islamist-inclined military that opens fire on its Christian minority, to the recent referendum which serves the Muslim Brotherhood — indicates that, left to itself, Egypt is poised to look more like Iran than America.
Of course, the Obama administration is not against Islamists rising to power — so long as it is through the "will" of the people. As the Los Angeles Timesput it, the administration "supports a role for groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood, a banned Islamist organization, in a reformed Egyptian government." Even in his speech, Obama said the US must support "the freedom for people to express themselves and choose their leaders"; must support "governments that are ultimately responsive to the aspirations of the people." The underlying assumption is that people always choose liberal forms of governments — a demonstrably false notion: Nazis, Hamas, the mullahs — all came to power through the "aspirations of the people."
As for Libya's nebulous opposition, even before Obama decided to support them, the Washington Post had reported that "the administration knows little about Libya's well-armed rebels, [and] cannot predict the political system that might replace Qaddafi's bizarre rule." More recent evidence indicates that the US is arming the same jihadists who four years earlier were trying to kill Americans in Iraq.
Yet Obama bypasses all these obstacles by engaging in moral posturing, asserting, for example, that a massacre in eastern Libya's Benghazi "would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world. It was not in our national interest to let that happen. I refused to let that happen." Again, no clarification exactly how an intertribal massacre — regular occurrences the world over — is "not in our national interest." Moreover, as Jihad Watch director Robert Spencer soberly puts it:
Eastern Libya [Benghazi], where the anti-Qaddafi forces are based, is a hotbed of anti-Americanism and jihadist sentiment. A report by West Point's Combating Terrorism Center reveals that during the last few years, more jihadists per capita entered Iraq from Libya than from any other Muslim country — and most of them came from the region that is now spearheading the revolt against Qaddafi.
Perhaps Obama simply sees the rebels as "freedom-fighters" — as a recentExaminer headline phrases it: "U.S. supports Al Qaeda 'freedom fighters' against Qaddafi in Libyan civil war." If so, it is well to reflect that the US has been down this road before, when it supported Afghanistan's "freedom-fighting" mujahidin against the Soviet Union in the 1980s, only for Afghanistan to become a terrorist haven and al Qaeda's headquarters, where the strikes of 9/11 were devised.
As opposed to today, however, it was less evident during the Reagan era that Islamists would become a global headache; plus, the reason for supporting the mujahidin was less idealistic and more to do with actual US interests — containing Soviet expansion and influence.
Conversely, in Obama's Libyan adventure, we know for a fact that Islamist forces are involved; we know for a fact what happens when Islamists assume power — whether the mullahs in Iran, Hamas in the Palestinian Authority, or the Taliban in Afghanistan: they become anti-American, terrorist breeding grounds. Finally, as Obama explained it, no US interests are being served either way.
Indeed, even Obama's humanitarian argument for Libyan intervention is full of holes: if the opposition overthrows Qaddafi, it will likely be they, the opposition, who inflict a bloodbath on their countrymen — the usual denouement of intertribal warfare. In this context, whereas US intervention will have saved the lives of eastern Libyans, it will be seen as complicit in the killing of western Libyans — and, as usual, used as fodder to incite further anti-Americanism in the region.
Further, Obama's point that, though many people around the world are being oppressed by their governments, "that cannot be an argument for never acting on behalf of what's right," also raises questions: Of all the current global conflicts where innocents are being massacred, couldn't the administration at least narrow it down to helping one of the many groups that does not have al-Qaeda ties and was not fighting Americans in Iraq?
How about "doing what's right" in Darfur, where countless non-Muslims have been butchered by the Islamist regime in Khartoum for these many years? How about "doing what's right" regarding the persecuted, indigenous Christians of the Islamic world? (Whereas one of Obama's reasons for intervening in Libya was that mosques were unintentionally being destroyed— he has been silent in word and deed regarding the numerous churchesintentionally being destroyed in the Muslim world.)
In sum, as he explained it, not only does Obama's decision to intervene militarily in Libya not serve any tangible American interests; it may directly serve the interests of the Islamist enemy. More ironic, the humanitarian argument is full of holes. One is left hoping that, for strategic purposes, Obama is not being fully transparent, but does have concrete US interests in mind — which, of course, is exactly how practically every Arab interprets US intervention.
Hence, the final irony: While Obama's fine platitudes to justify war may satisfy some Americans, they are far from achieving their objective: winning over the much coveted Arab "hearts-and-minds," two quantities that — as evinced from the Arabic media to the Arab street — are thoroughly cynical, and thus reject the notion that nations ever militarily intervene out of sheer altruism.
As opposed to today, however, it was less evident during the Reagan era that Islamists would become a global headache; plus, the reason for supporting the mujahidin was less idealistic and more to do with actual US interests — containing Soviet expansion and influence.
Conversely, in Obama's Libyan adventure, we know for a fact that Islamist forces are involved; we know for a fact what happens when Islamists assume power — whether the mullahs in Iran, Hamas in the Palestinian Authority, or the Taliban in Afghanistan: they become anti-American, terrorist breeding grounds. Finally, as Obama explained it, no US interests are being served either way.
Indeed, even Obama's humanitarian argument for Libyan intervention is full of holes: if the opposition overthrows Qaddafi, it will likely be they, the opposition, who inflict a bloodbath on their countrymen — the usual denouement of intertribal warfare. In this context, whereas US intervention will have saved the lives of eastern Libyans, it will be seen as complicit in the killing of western Libyans — and, as usual, used as fodder to incite further anti-Americanism in the region.
Further, Obama's point that, though many people around the world are being oppressed by their governments, "that cannot be an argument for never acting on behalf of what's right," also raises questions: Of all the current global conflicts where innocents are being massacred, couldn't the administration at least narrow it down to helping one of the many groups that does not have al-Qaeda ties and was not fighting Americans in Iraq?
How about "doing what's right" in Darfur, where countless non-Muslims have been butchered by the Islamist regime in Khartoum for these many years? How about "doing what's right" regarding the persecuted, indigenous Christians of the Islamic world? (Whereas one of Obama's reasons for intervening in Libya was that mosques were unintentionally being destroyed— he has been silent in word and deed regarding the numerous churchesintentionally being destroyed in the Muslim world.)
In sum, as he explained it, not only does Obama's decision to intervene militarily in Libya not serve any tangible American interests; it may directly serve the interests of the Islamist enemy. More ironic, the humanitarian argument is full of holes. One is left hoping that, for strategic purposes, Obama is not being fully transparent, but does have concrete US interests in mind — which, of course, is exactly how practically every Arab interprets US intervention.
Hence, the final irony: While Obama's fine platitudes to justify war may satisfy some Americans, they are far from achieving their objective: winning over the much coveted Arab "hearts-and-minds," two quantities that — as evinced from the Arabic media to the Arab street — are thoroughly cynical, and thus reject the notion that nations ever militarily intervene out of sheer altruism.
©2011 Raymond Ibrahim
"For the sake of clarity... we post this article which gives a clear picture of our feelings."
ReplyDeleteThank you Hermes for posting this article. I'm seriously thinking of getting a t-shirt printed with the simple phrase "Libya Turmoil 84" Underneath that I'll list the following names with a thick red line drawn through each:
Astor
DuPont
Kennedy
Onassis
Rockefeller
Rothschild
Disney...
Beste,
Atl