Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Libyan Turmoil 116


The Norwegians are bombing Libyan civilians but are ashamed to admit it, they don't refuse the money though.



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Norway ‘earns from Libya conflict’

April 28, 2011  
The Norwegian state has earned large amounts of money since the beginning of the UN-backed international military operations in Libya because of the effect of the conflict on oil prices – something which Amnesty International Norway believes could lead to “a problem for Norway’s reputation.” Meanwhile, the country’s defense minister refused to confirm whether Norwegian fighter jets were involved in Monday’s attack on Colonel Gadhafi’s headquarters, despite American sources reporting Norway’s role.
Defense Minister Grete Faremo, shown here a press conference last year, will not publicly confirm Norwegian involvement in Monday's attacks on one of Colonel Gadhafi's key strongholds. PHOTO: Forsvaret
When the missions began in Libya and oil exports from the country ceased, oil prices increased by around NOK 106 (USD 20) per barrel, and Norway has since then sold roughly 1.67 million barrels of cr udeoil, along with 1.79 million barrels of dry gas and 530,000 barrells of liquid gas. If 85 percent of the earnings from these sales come into the government budget as expected, the country has therefore earned around NOK 300 million (nearly USD 57 million) per day and total earnings of about NOK 21 billion (almost USD 4 billion), according to estimates by newspaper Aftenposten.
‘A problem with our reputation’
The sharp increase in oil prices experienced at the start of the bombing of Libya was by some estimates the largest jump in costs since the Iranian revolution in 1979. Many oil analysts in Norway, such as Thina Saltvedt of Nordea Markets who spoken to Aftenposten, believe that this shows that Norway and the world must “develop other energy sources” and “become less dependent on oil.”
Amnesty International Norway’s general secretary, John Peder Egenæs, told Aftenposten that the news presents a problem for the country in terms of its diverse international roles, and might be misinterpreted in the region where opponents of the mission have suggested that the war is about oil. “When we earn so intensely from war and conflict, we can risk having a problem with our reputation in this part of the world,” Egenæs said. “Norway sells itself deliberately as a country that works hard for peace, reconciliation and human rights.”
Egenæs was quick to add that “at the same time, it would be completely crazy if we did not engage because we earn money from higher oil prices.” He nonetheless added that “when we earn so much from war, we can only ask if we should do even more.”
Defense minister ‘reserved’
American sources confirmed that Norwegian fighter jets were involved in bombing a key headquarter of Colonel Gadhafi on Monday, something which the Norwegian defense ministry still refuses to admit publicly. Defense minister Grete Faremo told Aftenposten that “we wish to protect our pilots” and, in “a small environment”, she would “not connect individual planes or pilots to individual missions.”
Some journalists in the Norwegian media were disappointed with this stance. Per Edgar Kokkvold, the general secretary of the Norwegian Press Association, told Aftenposten that it is “not understandable that Norway should be more reserved than Denmark.” Danish authorities release information every day on which targets its forces have attacked, without connecting these missions to particular pilots or aircraft.
Faremo also answered questions on whether the mission was intended to kill Gadhafi himself, stating that Norway stayed within the limits of the UN resolution that did not include this as a legitimate goal. Analysts commenting in Aftenposten suggested that had the mission killed the Libyan leader, the oil price would have fallen USD 10.
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17 comments:

  1. "Bombing for Dollars"

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  2. I like the way they call his son's home 'a Gaddafi headquarters'. The Italian Bishop in Tripoli confirmed on Italian TV that the son, his wife and three children (ages 4 months to 2 years)were killed, plus another man, and he had seen the bodies. Nice one, Norway, for human rights, peace and reconciliation. CAM

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  3. http://www.infowars.com/listen.html

    Am listening to Alex Jones radio show on Podcast about disclosures by Steve Pieczenik (Former US Navy Captain Pieczenik, a man who served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and a man who hunted terrorists for the US government all over the world) on psych ops, and bin laden,.
    From what he says if this is the lying that is going on, then Libya is having the same treatment,as 'the baddie'. He says we 'create [?]tension to allow us to go into a country/create war to extract mineral rights, whatever'. The vehicle is psycho ops to manipulate the american people'.
    CAM

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  4. Remind me again what they are saying on Arab/Pakistani street and on the Conspiracy sites in the West about the recent execution of OBL? Ah, yes, I remember now, "Show us the proof, show us the photos, show us the video". Talk about double standards. Jeez!!!

    Atl.

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  5. Further to my previous post on this thread, if folks persist in HAARPing on about ludicrous Western conspiracy theories, let us at least insist upon a level playing field here. What possible objection could the Western conspiracy theory peddlers have against that?

    Atl.

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  6. Someone on another blog found a youtube link of the whole interview with Dr. Steven Piecenzik (2 hrs). An alternative to the radio on line.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjtNiTm99e8&feature=player_embedded

    This is compelling listening due to the credentials and history of Piecenzik. He says this is not a conspiracy theory but discusses a war technique, i.e false flag operations and gives examples in past military history of the USA.

    CAM

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  7. CAM,

    I believe Dr. Piecenzik is suffering from Angleton Syndrome. It's a condition where the individual spends a dissproportionate amount of time driving backwards thru History flipping off others who are going with the flow of History or being swept along with it, given the course of events they find themselves in.

    He's a very smart guy; I've met him. And I'm very familiar with his field and interests. Unfortunately, let me tell you what AS leads to

    Alexander Pope's The Dunciad [Book IV]

    lines 641 to the last line: "And Universal Darkness buries All."

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  8. Piecenzik is NOT a conspiracy theorist, eh? Would that be the same Piecenzik who claims 9/11 was a "false flag operation"? The same Piecenzik who (contrary to the late OBL's own teenage daughter's recent testimony that her father was captured ALIVE then 'murdered' in front of her own eyes by US military personnel in their house in Abbottabad) claims that OBL died in a cave in Tora Bora a decade or so ago and that his body was kept 'on ice' until now? Yeah, right!

    Atl.

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  9. OBL spent the last FIVE YEARS of his life living in the room of his mansion where he was shot and killed, according to OBL's Yemeni wife, who lived in that mansion with him, with their daughter (see previous post).

    Atl.

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  10. Cothcap wrote on his blog in an intro regarding this issue ask anyone in the CIA. Would that include the former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit?If Ceph is still following this blog he might recognize a familiar upbringing: [from wiki]

    "Scheuer was born in Buffalo and graduated from Canisius College in 1974, and went on to earn an M.A. from Niagara University in 1976 and another M.A. from Carleton University in 1982.[7][8] He also received a Ph.D. in British Empire-U.S.-Canada-U.K. relations from the University of Manitoba in 1986.[9][10]

    Scheuer served in the CIA for 22 years before resigning in 2004. He was chief of the Osama bin Laden unit at the Counterterrorist Center from 1996 to 1999.[11] He worked as Special Adviser to the Chief of the bin Laden Unit from September 2001 to November 2004.[12] He is now known to have been the anonymous author of both the 2004 book Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror and the earlier anonymous work, Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America.[13] After his anonymously-published books had been publicly associated with his name, he was mentioned in an Osama bin Laden statement of September 7, 2007. According to bin Laden, "If you want to understand what's going on and if you would like to get to know some of the reasons for your losing the war against us, then read the book of Michael Scheuer in this regard."[4]"

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  11. Of course, my point in the above extract was to bring up some problem dates for Dr. P's theory, I don't recall Dr. Scheuer ever claiming that Osama died in 2001, but maybe he was in on the 'secret' and has been milking his former position for all its worth?

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  12. As the following article concludes, '[W]e have to acknowledge that we are trying to educate people who, in many respects, either cannot or will not change their minds, no matter how much evidence we present or how much mockery we employ.'

    www.newsrealblog.com/2010/11/07/tin-foil-turbans-the-6-stupidest-conspiracy-theories-that-millions-of-muslims-believe-1/7/

    Atl.

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  13. Hey, Western cospiracy theorists, meet your Muslim intellectual doppelgangers;

    www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41093

    and

    Libyan protesters defaced Gaddafi's picture with... (guee what?)

    www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=42420


    Atl.

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  14. @capo
    Intriguing on both Angleton and Pope. So, I either believe you or Steve P, in the absence of verifiable facts which I will never be in a position to see!
    CAM

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  15. If Angleton and Pope are intriguing, then why is it between me and Steve P. on who or what to believe? And what happend to Mike S. cited above?

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  16. Pity about those broken links. If I was a conspiracy nut I'd probably swear on a stack of X Files DVD's that Steve P. had something to do with it.

    Atl.

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  17. It may turn out that Steve P. has something to do with everything, Atl. do you smoke in silhouette?

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